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Alex Kotran's avatar

I thought about this quite a bit, but couldn’t figure out a way to truly A-B test. If anyone is aware of some studies that would showcase this please share!

And yes, I agree that it would have been more scientific not to indicate the prior post was written by AI, but I didn’t feel comfortable duping folks.

Dan Myers's avatar

Thanks for this extremely useful post - I'm going to assign it in a class.

A point on the Socrates footnote - Socrates was (partially) right! His argument is that writing will change the nature of knowledge, and that writing with symbols, rather than the "true way of writing" which is "communicat[ing] orally for the sake of instruction and graven in the soul" would change the nature of communication and memory.

And this happened. We are far worse at memorizing epic poetry - or, really, anything - than pre-literate people. Much of what we know is not "graven in the soul" in the sense of having well and fully internalized the information and lessons, but rather knowledge of where to reference knowledge and lessons that might be important.

Socrates was wrong in the sense that he overlooked the vast advantages of writing. For example, his case against writing rests heavily on the argument that written words are not part of a dialogue - they cannot answer questions or defend themselves, unlike a speaker who is in conversation with another person. This misses how the written word enables "conversations" across space and time that are far move complex and nuanced than a real-time dialogue between two people can be. The loss of the oral tradition has damaged our memories, but as Ong and subsequent authors document, it has vastly expanded the scope of language in a way that enables more complex thought.

The implication of this is that the changes wrought by AI are bad only if you think that the way of thinking enabled by writing is uniquely valuable. I do think this, for all the reasons laid out by Ong and subsequent scholars. Indeed, just reflecting on all of the subtle but important ways that my own argument has changed in writing and revising this comment demonstrate this.

(Perhaps instead of "Writing is Thinking" we should say "Writing Enables a Particularly Valuable Form of Thinking That is the Foundation of Complex Moderns Societies", though that's less of a good bumper sticker.)

Maybe, like Socrates, people will look back on us and argue that we were wrong. But standing where we are now, I see the move back to orality, or whatever we want to call AI-enabled "writing", is a step backwards.

Link to Phaedrus if you want to read it yourself: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1636/1636-h/1636-h.htm

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